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still not over : 6/17/2009

But it still isnt over. The group is just going to go to the county since it is on county land and get approval from them. This project can still happen.

last night

As A Golfer... : 6/17/2009

I love playing Glen Annie as it is now, its a great alternative to Muni. Sad to think of it no longer as a challenging 18-hole course. I'd hate to see it developed, but understand from the owners perspective they need to generate some revenue just to keep it going. Overall I just think its a crappy situation. Shocking that the City of Goleta shot this down so quickly, and yes I'm being sarcastic. The people who run Goleta have been a joke for years now, so this is no surprise.

Ag Land is Ag Land : 6/17/2009

Just because the viability of the golf course is in jeopardy is not a good reason to suddenly rezone ag land for housing. When the course was developed, the owners were aware of the zoning and changing the zoning to bail them out is not fair ot the residents of the area. If any ranch in the county is having financial difficulties, should we let them rezone and build subdevelopments to insure their survival? I don't think so.

Good Decision : 6/17/2009

The council made the right decision. We must be careful about overbuilding and destroying Ag land. Once it's gone, it's gone for good. I applaud their decision.

Glen Annie Golf Course : 6/17/2009

Glen Annie course as it exists now is a classy, beautiful addition to Goleta. However, I fully understand the desire of the owner(s) to add some equity and get out from under their debts. This is a conundrum. I don't like the disparagement of the golf course by Connell. As the population of the area continues to age, there will be more golfers. It appears to me that the political will is going from the "save our community" theme of many years, to "let's not any new ideas or projects bother us." Goleta will just continue to stagnate and rot, along with the 30 and 40 year old tracks of homes. Sad. Sometimes "Change" is good, remember?

playitfair

Poor Decision by Goleta CC : 6/17/2009

As a resident of Goleta, as a voting citizen, as a parent of young children - this most recent decision by the GCC shows how inept, narrow-minded, and controlled by the "no-growth" groups the 3 who voted down this proposal are - it is just a sad, sad state of affairs in Goleta. It is unfortunate they decided to vote down the proposal - it was just a proposal to investigate and provide further information. There was no requirement to support it in the future. How can you make an informed decision when you do not have all of the facts or information critical to that decision??? One cannot. Goleta is losing families at a rapid rate - the school populations are declining, families are finding fewer resources, families are leaving. We would love more soccer fields, more community spaces. Additionally, the golf course is a huge asset to this community. And it is a wonderful moderate cost course - less than the exclusive Sandpiper and nicer than the smaller 9 hole courses. And the proposal would have allowed the course to continue to operate at a profit while providing the fields etc., for the community. The three on the GCC who voted down this proposal represent everything Goleta needs to change. I agree - open spaces are nice but I much prefer it a green, open space with a few homes and more community resources than a brown patch of dirt. Hopefully, in the next election, the citizens of Goleta will realize how backwards thinking E, C, & A are and will vote in new members who will help Goleta advance and grow in a smart, positive, and well-planned manner. Or at least help to change the balance of power from the absolute no-growth at any cost members to the moderate, reasonable look at the facts and make the best, informed decision - kind of leaders we need. For the sake of the future of Goleta - we need change. These are not the people who should be running the city. They made a very poor, unfortunate, uninformed decision last night.

Goleta Resident

: 6/17/2009

It's not the responsibility of the City to bail someone out to the detriment of the residents just because they made a bad business decision to begin with. This project was originally approved by the then pro-growth majority on the Board of Supervisors. This project is not going to fare any better with the County and the current Board. To approve the project will require an extension of the urban boundary line and a change in the General Plan designation from agriculture to residential. Not going to happen soon.

no more golf courses : 6/17/2009

We already have Sandpiper and Ocean Meadows in Goleta, what do we need another golf course in our city for? Santa Barbara has Muni and Twin Lakes. Why do we need 3?

Goleta golfer

No bailouts for bad biz plans : 6/17/2009

Any one notice Onen hasn't met a housing developement he didn't like? Or that his first spending act was fixing up Old Town creeks/drainage right next to his business and down the street from the ex-mayors home? Thankfully, the COG council has finally figured out that the majority who supported cityhood is still here and still believes in our original, restrictive General Plan. It's indicative of the golf guys that they had a marginal idea to begin with, screwed that up and now they want to show up 2 years late and a million dollars a year short and ask to build housing... what moron would want to trust them to take on a large housing developement...Anyone?... Bueller? Onen?? Onen needs to go!

sa1

Bad decision : 6/17/2009

I really wasn't all for the changing of the course from it's current layout to an executive course, but I was willing to deal with it. Not having any course or any plans to use this beautiful land will be sad. I think they would do better if they cut the long grass along the fairways so you could find your ball when you sometimes find yourself ten yards off the fairway. These no growth people are keeping Goleta from being able to soundly stand on their own. More people, more money, more business for everyone. This is prime real estate, should be used as such.

Bummed league golfer

: 6/18/2009

It would help the discussion if the people claiming Goleta is ruled by "no growthers" would review all the construction that is going on. Did you notice construction or approvals for 3 new Goleta Hotels? What about the approval of the 200 unil Sumida Gardens and 100 unit Haskell's Landing? Did you see the construction to expand the square footage of the Best Buy? Did you see the tentative approval of a huge Weststar complex across Hollister from the Camino Real Shopping Center, with nearly 200 housing units plus office buildings on 23 acres? Did you see the approval for potentially 800 housing units at Villages at Los Carneros? Does that sound like "NO GROWTH" to anyone? The owners of Glen Annie Golf course are only there because they promised that if they could be rezoned from Ag they would be only a golf course. They seem to have made a bad business decision. Why should I open my wallet to bail them out? Does my protecting my pocket book earn me your epithets and false accusations that I am a no-growther? Shame on you and shame on Onnen.

infomaniac

Glen Annie : 6/18/2009

Voters need to realize that the traffic problem can be solved with asphalt (nasty word?) and the owner of the property should have the right to develop it, esp. since they are going to such lengths to include community non paying access! Where do these councilors think money comes from? It is from their tax base built upon sustainable businesses. Time to get real here.

Frank Sproul