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Negative Impacts : 9/16/2009

The biggest negative impact to our Community is the prolonged use of an aging and unsightly ideology held by most of the City Council. We need more people like Dale.

Evan

voting for dale : 9/16/2009

The current council still hasn't gotten over the fact that Dale is sitting next to them, and they are doing everything they can to cast him in a bad light because they have just figured out he has a lot of support for his Mayoral campaign. Calling for bogus votes about meaningless letters is unnecessary, childish and playing politics at its worst. I don't agree with Dale on this one, but I still support his candidacy in many ways for his leadership qualities and ability to stand apart and ask questions--that is what we need up there.

cc

it was about oil, not the election : 9/16/2009

I don't think this had anything to do with the upcoming mayoral election, but was instead Francisco's fully thought-out and embedded pro-oil opinions versus Williams' anti-oil (except when supported by EDC.) I am glad Francisco is on the council - it needs a variety of points of view, although I do disagree with him on this, but I do not support him for mayor. That job is mayor of ALL the people: there's a too-evident strain of nastiness in Francisco's comments sometimes --- 'though, admittedly, Williams can easily bring that out. At times he seems to think that his role on the council is one of prosecutor. As for the election, by trying to give up his council seat for the more prestigious one of mayor, he shows he's little different from Das who wanted to become Supervisor in his first term.

CRE

Tortured Logic a la DAS WILLIAMS : 9/16/2009

as usual Das is informed more by running for a different seat than he is by his current role. His attempt to parse the obvious inconsistency of supporting PXP yet opposing drilling in "federal" waters was pathetic to watch. Das---pick a side---either drilling is a risk to the coast or it is not. ..... other than within your very small circle of friends, no one outside of santa barbara makes such a distinction ---

sick of the bs

Welcome to the 21st Century : 9/16/2009

Those founding GOO and their current supporters need to recognize the current technology of the 21st Century. It is not the replaced and no longer used technology of the 1960's that failed in 1969. This entire area is a vast oil seep, with valuable oil going to waste. Using technology of slant drilling, the latest capping of well heads, etc. this is a safe activity. Put the gasoline rags away (to clean your feet) and relieve the undergound pressure, and join the 21s Century

local barbarian

Archaic Mindset : 9/16/2009

Once again, Santa Barbara City Council in all their wisdom, have taken a knee-jerk-wacko-enviromental-thoughtless and shortsighted view to a very important issue, but decided to go with the politically correct stance... SOS makes an excellent point with regard to diminishing natural steepage. The enviromental regulations are 1000 times more regulated than 40 (forty) years ago! People don't want to hear about how the oil companies have purchased new, cleaner burning diesel engines for all the local fishing vessels or increasing oil production decreases our foreign dependancy (how arrogant are we that we will use oil, but don't drill here- NIMBY's) or the employment and tax revenue income that off-shore oil brings... This is a perfect example of how mismanaged the city is... Helene would rather build more "chronic" homeless housing and have societies non-productive individuals as residents rather than people who pay taxes and support our city and county with taxes and income... This town is insane!

We need change- PRONTO!

Vote For Change : 9/16/2009

A Vote for Helene is a vote for CHANGE .... A CHANGE for the WORSE

D A S

Wells and Homeless : 9/16/2009

We should have co-mayors of Francisco and Schnider so we can have wells and homeless any where you look. Now that will make SB a prime tourist destination.

Naive to Say the Least : 9/16/2009

"It was about oil, not the election"... and Santa Calus is working on your christmas present right now.

Tooth Ferry

Where did all these commenters come from? : 9/16/2009

Judging from so many comments supporting oil drilling, one would think this town is full of right-wing, conservative (not conservationist), anti-environmental, bug-business Republicans. Where did they all come from? Are they becoming as activist as the left?

Bob

Oil Seeps : 9/16/2009

SOS is an arm of the oil industry and receives funding from it. Their contention that drilling relieves oil seeps is not backed by anything in fact. SOS bases their claims on a 1999 study published in the Journal of Geophysical Research. One of the authors of the study, a UCSB professor named Bruce Luyendyk, has repeatedly said that the pro-drilling groups are "extrapolating these results in ways that are not justified." Also, a comparison of the impacts of seeps and spills based solely on volume is misleading. The evidence is clear that, far from being invisible against a background of seeps, major spills can have far greater and qualitatively different impacts on the environment than do seeps. As for Das Williams- it is an oxymoron to say you are opposed to OCS drilling but support PXP. PXP IS off shore oil drilling

US Oil Exports : 9/16/2009

The United States EXPORTS an increasing amount of oil and petroleum products. Last month it was more than 4,000.000 barrels a day! This includes crude and refined products. 10 years ago it was less than half of this amount. This is a business decision made by the corporations who want the most profit from their activities. They are not patriots in the sense that they would refuse to sell US oil overseas is they can make more money that way. If the advocates of oil drilling in the US honestly want to have an increased production reduce the level of imports they should attach a requirement that any US production can only be used domestically. This would also protect US consumers from the price gaming that goes on (right now CA gasoline is 50 cents a gallon higher than anywhere else in the US solely because the producers have decided to slow down California refining (not because their is a shortage of California crude to refine). Oil companies are international businesses with no sense of loyalty or patriotism. We need to deal with them as toughly as they deal with us.

RHS

dangers of OCS : 9/16/2009

Lest anyone think the oil industry tells the truth jlust look at what is happening in Australia. What may turn out to be the worst spill in history is happening right now with the new technology they told us eliminates the possibility of an oil spill. Off shore oil drilling is a dirty, dangerous business from start to finish and the frist leyars when production is maximum are the most dangerous. even if the PXP "deal" were real, that danger would exist during its operation. But of course we know the deal is not enforceable, it is against federal law and both Das and Krop know that. Das is just trying to green himself up with his No OCS stance. He can't be for PXP and against OCS drilling, they are one and the same. As for those who think drilling is a good idea becasue it will lower prices or bring us independence- think again. There is no way the amount we drill will have any impact of the price of oil and it certainly won't bring us independence- fro mostly the same reason but also because we export more than we could get from OCS. One good spill would wipe out any money the state might get from PXP or other proposals t is time to stop listenting to the oil lobby and trying to reward them for making billions of dollars in excess profits at all of our expense

Oil Drilling Hypocrisy : 9/16/2009

You make it sound as though Council member Francisco is an unhinged lunatic. Okay ... you may be right. But Francisco's point is well taken: Das Williams isn't fooling anyone by making resolutions to 'oppose' offshore oil when he actually supports new offshore drilling in state waters as part of his unwavering support for the PXP drilling. Over 90 environmental organizations in California oppose the PXP scam. Das can make all the general nonspecific pronouncements he wants but when it comes to an actual project he supports offshore oil drilling. What left Francisco (and I) scratching our heads is this: if Das supports coastal protection so much, why is he in favor of drilling closer to the shoreline (in state waters) and against it further offshore (beyond 3 miles, in federal waters). That is lame. An oil spill will cause more damage if it is closer to shore. Go figure....

4Oceans

RE: Where did all these commenters come from? : 9/16/2009

Hey Bob, You must be one of the new-comers to Santa Barbara..It used to proudly be called "REAGAN COUNTRY!" Unfortunately, the left has moved into this area from the other 49 States by way of SBCC and UCSB after their "college indoctrination" of one-way liberal thinking...LOL

Ronnie Reagan