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Revenue or safety? : 10/31/2009

I'm sick of the hypocracy of the county and police who claim to enforce the law to protect public safety but really are concerned with generating more revenue to pay themselves! Why is it that this article discusses the costs of these crimes to perpetrators instead of discussing ways in which the Sherriffs will be stopping them when everyone knows they will be committed? With about 500 arrests at an average of $1,000 per fine, that's 1/2 million dollars for the County - what other County program will generate $500,000 in revenue this weekend? Ridiculous!

sounds tame to me : 10/31/2009

So last year there were about 40,000 partiers and they gave out only 438 tickets? That hardly sounds like an out-of-control bacchanalia to me. It sounds like the students are more responsible than most adults you're apt to find on any given occasion.

bob

Harassment : 10/31/2009

I was there last night and the way the police were acting and handling situations was very close to bordering on harassment. The police should be targeting people who are causing real disturbance, not college students who want to have a good time for the first time this quarter. Maybe I am bitter because I got a ticket for having a drink in a water bottle on me, but its ridiculous that I have to worry about being a criminal because of this. The officer who cited me didn't even know how to properly fill out the ticket or which form to give me, it was a true joke. I also saw them being a bit less than respectful to other house owners and attendees. A guy was immediately put into a full nelson because he told the cops they wern't allowed to enter his house as they walked in. I feel like it has gone too far.

greg

Why drinking is a problem : 10/31/2009

The problem doesn't lie with the majority of people who have a good time, get wasted, go home, and sleep it off. The problem is that a good number of people get wasted, separate from their friends, end up alone, confused, and helpless on the street (and not just females). This person is an ideal target of crime, both violent and nonviolent. And then there are the substantial number of people who drink to the point that they can't care for themselves and need medical care. To the person who posted "Revenue or safety," claiming this event is a cash cow for the Sheriff's Department, how about American Medical Response who gets to rake in some big bucks on transporting 50+ drunks to the hospital? Also, you estimate that the Sheriff's Department will generate $500,000 in revenue over the weekend. Did you read the part of the article about the estimated cost to the Department being $500,000, with potentially an additional $500,000 in costs to other law enforcement agencies that send personnel to Isla Vista to assist? For those who think law enforcement is behaving unreasonably, how do you propose to minimize the number of alcohol-related problems in IV? I'm not talking about MIPs, BUIs, etc, but the more serious batteries, thefts, and medical problems. Maybe you haven't had any personal exposure to these types of problems in IV, but they're there. Finally, all this ill will towards law enforcement and perceived harassment could probably be resolved by following a few simple rules: 1) If you're drinking, don't be stupid - this means don't take your open container in public, don't leave your house if you're totally wasted, don't start fights, just have a good time. 2) If an officer is talking to you, don't be a jerk and mouth off just because they're being mean to you. Don't accuse them of violating your rights (they're probably not), don't insult them. Just answer their questions, and if you've followed rule #1, you should be okay.

Former UCSB student

drunks : 11/1/2009

hopefully more were arrested this year, taken to jail and had to pay huge fines....the others..hopefully they od'ed and are in the morgue...I am so sick of these crybaby drunks! No wonder their parents enrolled them in the UCSB daycore?boarding school!

mlaer

re: daycare at UCSB : 11/1/2009

I agree 100%! the UCSB daycare/boarding school kiddies are way out of control...just another example of wasted youth, parents who could never control their children...and they are our future? so damn sad.....

lankder

re: daycare at UCSB : 11/1/2009

Right on the money! I'm sick of these druck kids costing us money every year. The massive impact on Goleta city services is way out of line. The parking situation and peripheral damage caused by out-of-town kids is also unacceptable. Just say NO to this next year. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Rick

i rememberv when : 11/1/2009

i moved to sb in 1980...kids will be kids...like the war on drugs you can't stop it...make money on it yeah...sb use to be a fun place to live...i was supose to work till 9pm last night...out of fear I left at 4pm...cops here will pull you over and f... with you for anything...and im 51...lol...

me

PS : 11/1/2009

this is not costing money...it's a money maker...i wounder just what this town would do without this party every year? I'd have to think they say...cool more people this year$$$$$$

me

First Timer to the SB party scene : 11/1/2009

Oh stop the whining. It seems most of you are being hostile towards college kids because #1- You missed out when you were in college!!! The last two nights were definitely worth the 5 hour drive from SDSU. And hey, at least the city of Goleta is getting some tourism income!

SDSU student

re: kettles : 11/2/2009

Spoken like a true alcoholic!!!! SDSU is just as bad....its always the true drunks who can't see that they are in DENIAL!

SB native

Keep Halloween local! : 11/2/2009

SDSU Student, it's out-of-towners like you who are the main problem. Halloween would just be a rowdier than usual IV weekend if it wasn't for you guys streaming in here and pushing it to a dangerous level. And the reason we're "hostile" is that so many of our tax dollars are being wasted on this nonsense year after year. The fact that you can't see farther than your own fun just shows how much growing up you need to do.

Cops : 11/2/2009

i got arrested for having a good time .. im 21 and wasnt doing antying but standing in the street and some cop grabbed my wrist and hauled me away. such bullshit. they were acting like robo-cops.

: 11/2/2009

So what does your "arrest" paperwork list as the offense -- "Having a Good Time"? Yeah, right! Tell us the real story, pal.

isla vista : 11/2/2009

www.streetsofiv.com

andre nickatina

re: cops : 11/2/2009

nice one. you are an idiot. as many drunks that they deal with downtown, it is the morons that rise above the baseline and stick-out that the cops address. face it, you having a good time is you being an idiot.

moron hater....

Be quiet you old farts! : 11/2/2009

Be quiet you old farts! As if you never did anything wild in your long gone youth.

:)

Go take a nap grandpa and leave the party for the young : 11/2/2009

But it's on YOUR tab! : 11/2/2009

OK, we'll leave the party AND the bill to you kiddies. Fair is fair, right?

Gramps

Thanks gramps : 11/2/2009