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Graffiti Photos : 11/18/2009

Skip the photo next time. You are just giving the tagger the publicity that they want.

BeachGuy

: 11/18/2009

Don't jump to conclusions : 11/18/2009

Sorry, Pissed Off, stupidity comes in
every color. Remember the Montecito tagger that was caught in 2007 after prancing in front of a security camera in his plaid PJs? I bet it's some Riviera kids thinking they're "wild and crazy." It doesn't look like gang grafitti. Hope they're caught.

Sammy

Graffiti Vandalism shouldn't stump police : 11/18/2009

Give me a break. Graffiti artists routinely "sign" their destructive work. It shouldn't take a Sherlock Holmes to do the investigative footwork necessary to capture the perps. What's up with that SBPD?
And racist posters to this article are more offensive than the criminal acts themselves. How about a little prudent censorship DAILY SOUND?

annoyed citizen

Are You Awake Santa Barbara? Hello! : 11/18/2009

Maybe this is what it'll take to finally get some of these tagger wimps caught & brought to justice. You can't tell any of us that somebody doesn't see this going on while the little "marking dogs" do their business!
Pssst! Punks will rat out their own mother if it's worth it.
One word: R E W A R D for the arrest & conviction of these low lifers
It's time to take off the gloves and publish names of parents of these kids if under 18 & names of all over 18. Other communities do it around the U.S. Is the local media going to continue being wimps?
Hello! Are you awake, Santa Barbara?!

Seen Enought Yet, Santa Barbara?

More Tea Fire Graffiti : 11/18/2009

There is a huge graffiti mess on the wall of a burned out foundation, about 10 feet by 20 feet in size, that is very visible from Stanwood Drive west of Conejo . This mess has been there for months and there appears to be no attempt to clean it up.

Art

: 11/18/2009

I agree with one post here...Maybe SB will get tougher now that the Riviera is seeing some of what the rest of the city has seen for many years. It is time to get tough, these taggers are making our beautiful city look like trash!

Sick and Tired

Hypocrites : 11/18/2009

If there is graffiti in the downtown area, there is no story in the paper, but OMG! It happened in the "Riviera" it gets publicity and outrage! I
think that I am going to be giving all the pan handling bums I see, a ride to Mission Ridge and Mountain Drive... Maybe our bum problem will go away as there will be an impact on the SB elite!

SB Lowland resident

santaa barbara sanctuary city : 11/18/2009

So sorry for the owners, hope they find and prosecute the stupid punks that would do this. This is the unfortunate consequence with the voters of santa barbara voting in people who have declared us a santcuary city encouraging
illegal aliens to come here and that it is OK to break the law

neighbor

Hey, pissed off : 11/18/2009

If the tagger happens to be white,
then fry the stupid white people.

: 11/18/2009

Good time for SWAT to tune their nighttime shooting accuracy.

SBPD Nets Results : 11/18/2009

As a commercial property manager downtown, I deal with a lot of graffiti issues, and I can tell you first hand that the PD does a great job tracking these idiots and catching them. We photograph each incident of graffiti and send it to the PD. In the past I have been notified that they have caught the person responsible, they are prosecuted, and I have received reimbursement checks from the City as a result of the fines levied on the tagger. Basically what I'm saying here is, enough of this "the City and PD don't do anything" stuff, because you're wrong. Taggers get caught and they get prosecuted and they pay. Just because it doesn't make front page news all the time, doesn't mean the City and the PD aren't doing their jobs.
I also agree with BeachGuy, don't publish the photo it only gives them the attention they want. Now they're sitting around showing their friends their tagging in the Daily Sound. You've just upped the stakes for them, they're going to all try and do something just to get in the newspaper.

CPM

Can you remove Pissed Off's posing : 11/18/2009

It's simply offensive!

Smart Mexican

Please keep all the postings offensive or not : 11/18/2009

Please keep all the postings, offensive or not.
This is one of the few remaining places where censorship is kept to a minimum. Congats to the Daily Sound staff.
If people want to post offensive comments, let them.
But, you can also post something in reply to those offensive comments and maybe get people to think.

Vacant Lots Attract Partyers : 11/18/2009

I live in the Tea Fire burn area and have regularly seen kids parked at the vacant lots near me at night enjoying the views. Unfortunately, they leave beer bottles and trash behind and we have seen other instances of graffiti mostly on the mesh fences surrounding some lots. The solution is to get the vacant lots fenced off so the temptation is gone to come up to the Riviera to party on other people's property.

Steve

Graffiti hotline : 11/18/2009

Here's one way you can help -
https://www.santabarbaraca.gov/Graffiti/
805-897-2513
I have found they do what they say they will do.

MesaDude

Taggers : 11/18/2009

I just spent a month on the Mesa and the city does have a tagging problem. I went out two days with my graffiti kit and painted over and removed tags on Miegs and Cliff Drive as well as in the neighborhood. We live in San Jose and the city has a program whereby residents can sign up (there are 3000 of us who are currently volunteering) and are given solvent and paint to cover up tags as quick as they appear which has been proven to be the best way to fight the problem (it serves little purpose to tag if no one sees it). It may be something that should be considered by the city. I realize this does not get to the root of any gang graffiti but I would suspect 95% of the tagging that I covered was individuals rather than gang related. I also agree with several comments that the problem is not exclusive to any ethnic group (I worked in a local school district and the culprits are for the most part in their teens and early 20s and come from many walks of life).

Ditto on not showing picture : 11/18/2009

By showing the picture you feed right into the idiot's hand. As to calling them graffiti "artists" - PLEASE!

String 'em up

Vandals : 11/18/2009

I believe we should be able to shoot vandals onsite. They are useless in this world. This is a full on obama voting liberal speaking. I am sick to death of young losers creating so many damn problems and then having NO consequence equaling, NO REMORSE.

Jill

increase penalties! : 11/18/2009

would-be taggers need to be made aware that the consequences of getting caught are extremely severe and that it's just not worth it, not to mention tagging and graffiti is pointless and stupid and disrespectful to everyone. Either that or when these idiots are caught, they should be tied up in a public square and anyone who wants to can go down there and punch them in the face once.

also sick of it

Dont post the pictures!! : 11/18/2009

As other posters have mentioned, by putting this photo up you are giving the tagger exactly what he wants, regardless of his ethnicity.

Publish the Punishment : 11/18/2009

Why doesn't the Daily Sound, and other media, publish the reports of those that were caught, prosecuted and made to pay? Rather than publicizing the criminal damage, along with the photos that only gives them the exposure they seek, why not publicize the penalties?
Responsible journalism...???

Art

Eliminate the Picture and Racist Posts : 11/18/2009

Can't believe you put a tagger's photo up- that's incentive...
As far as racism being "frre speech" - it's not free speech when you are anonymous.
Don't post things you're to scared to speak. I'm white and really unimpressed by our "white representatives" in a lot of these posts. And trust me, I'm a lot meaner to gangster wannabes than you think.

Happen to Be A White Male, You May Or May Not Be

@ Taggers : 11/18/2009

Thank you! You probably got some of the stuff I called in.
And you were only visiting.
San Jose is about 10x the size of SB in population.
300 people active here would have a real impact on the problem.

MesaDude

Still Pissed Off : 11/19/2009

Open Border + Political Correctness = More and more gang activity and graffiti. If you want to hide your liberal heads in the sand then you are part of the problem.

Pissed off

photograph of the "tag" : 11/19/2009

I think it is irresponsible of the "Daily Sound" to publish a photo of this idiot's mess. This is what they want and why they do it. Maybe the Sound will reconsider next time to deny the scumbags their intention.

SV

Why insurance is so high : 11/19/2009

This guy's house burned down twice?? If not for insurance he probably would have not considered rebuilding on the same spot. Nothing like learning from mistakes and nothing like everyone else subsidizing them.

It must have taken hours to paint this : 11/19/2009

Who was holding the flashlight and how did this go by unnoticed?

sb city council and mayor wake up : 11/19/2009

SB used to be a great place but the police, city council, and mayor just don't have what it takes anymore. This town is a resort town but the back bone needs to be on gaurd and keep the citizens safe, and happy. The mesa has taggers too, it sucks, partying college student on the fourth with garbage can bombs police is called nothing....nobody comes....get it together or you'll end up like LA or Oakland. WAKE UP

SB Local for 42 years

Some of you have no clue : 11/19/2009

"SB used to be a great place but the police, city council, and mayor just don't have what it takes anymore. This town is a resort town but the back bone needs to be on gaurd and keep the citizens safe, and happy. The mesa has taggers too, it sucks, partying college student on the fourth with garbage can bombs police is called nothing....nobody comes....get it together or you'll end up like LA or Oakland. WAKE UP
SB Local for 42 years"
Seriously? Quit overreacting, this stuff happens and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Where there's a will there's a way. What a douche.

Oh but we do have a will : 11/20/2009

Snarky poster that thinks we can't do anything about it...I sure am glad you weren't around for, say, the Civil Rights movement. Yes we can do something. These things are happening because we TOLERATE it. Imagine if this city had a different attitude. What if the defacers knew that people might be out taking pictures of them, sending them to the police, or throwing rocks at people who graffiti? What if there were angry mobs armed with pitchforks at the police station demanding the names of caught defacers? What is such mobs wanted to enact their own form of 'justice' on property defacers? That's a much more hostile climate, no? But look at how we handle it: no one does anything to stop it, or try to catch them in the act, and a group of kind citizens paint over it the next day, yielding another fresh canvas, Newspapers print the images, deifying the defacers, and giving them the publicity they so crave.
We could choose to handle property defacers very differently....

downtownres

The Anti-Graffiti Web : 11/20/2009

http://web.archive.org/web/20010122010900/www.dougweb.com/introduction.html
this is research put together by a private citizen.
It has more opinion than a gov agency would publish.
Bottom line: quickly and persistently removing graffiti is one of the most effective things you can do about the problem.
FAQ:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001213205000/www.dougweb.com/faq.html

Grafitti Clean Up number : 11/22/2009

Santa Barbara City has a Grafitti Hotine and usually respond quickly.
897-2513

builder777

Publicity Management : 11/23/2009

I agree with many of the comments here. The Daily Sound should not be reporting this until the person (or people) who did this are identified. I hope that a larger article is printed when the criminal(s) are apprehended. The focus should be on the punishment as an example - not on the crime and the difficulties of finding the culprit(s). This article only furthers any incentive to vandalize since it gives the impression that this sort of act will go unpunished.

SJS25

get off your low horse! : 11/23/2009

From one "Lowland tenant" to another,
I believe the reason this made news has nothing to do with the fact that's it "the Riviera"! It's because these elderly people just lost thier house in the Tea fire. Have a little sympathy. I used to live on the riviera near Orpet park which was constantly being tagged by Gang members, who I personally saw tagging picnic benches there. The SBPD didn't care, even though it was the Riviera. AND not everyone who lives up there is rich like in your fantasies. Now living in Hope ranch annex and the tagging over here is awful as well. We need to come together on these issues not always act like begrudged children.

SEB