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6pm? : 12/24/2009

Who ends up drunk at 6pm? Not even a stupid teenager, excuses, excuses, n more excuses, have check points all day everywhere I love to have my constitutional rights *********

SB Reader

SB Reader : 12/24/2009

FYI ...It isn't your "constitutional right" to drive a car... Driving is a privilage.

: 12/24/2009

I think SB Reader was referring to illegal search and seizure, not the driving. I could make an argument that driving is a right. Following your logic riding a bicycle or a horse is also a privilege.

QED

dui checkpoints : 12/24/2009

Explain to the readers how you can prove that driving is a right. Are you saying that the people that don't drive are having their rights violated by the state or local government? Please identify the specific law or right in regards to driving being a right not a priviledge. A violation of search or seizure is only a violation when the authorities takes it away.

Constitutional rights. : 12/26/2009

The earlier poster, "QED", is correct. The issue is illegal search, not driving privilege. I too have real concerns and issues of what I would perceive as unreasonable search. I understand the reasoning behind it but I feel it is a greater injustice and incursion into out Constitutionally protected rights as citizens. In any case, it is a tough call but I reject it as illegal search.

SV

What are you afraid of? : 12/26/2009

I have no issues or worries about my "consitutional Rights" being violated as I have nothing to hide. If the cops have some cause that they feel a vehicle or person search is required- go for it... I have travelled around the world from third world countries to other western (EU) nations, and know that we live in a society that grants us HUGE protections...
Most of the squawkers of "oh, my rights are being violated..." are the same "victims" that like to push the system or are in fact the same people that cause organizations like the ACLU to take AWAY our freedoms... Maybe you feel like you are more special than the rest of us who adhere to the laws that we live by.

thats not the point! : 12/26/2009

the point is that sbpd already has pathetic response times to normal calls for service. why in the world would you have 10 cops standing around at six pm, when the likelyhood of them actually nabbing a dui is hours away!....what kind of morons are the commanders at sbpd?? put those 10 in a car responding to calls for help...dammit!

wowo man

You have nohing to hide? Can I search your home? : 12/26/2009

Great call wowo man, check points at 6pm? Hahahahahahahahaha lame police work!

Tony Dize

Response to : What are you aftaid of? : 12/27/2009

The person who wrote this post above doesn't get it. Your argument is pure sophistry. Think about what you say instead of just having a knee jerk reaction of comparisons to 3rd world countries and specious arguments about "nothing to hide". I really don't care about what 3rd world countries are doing. I care about our Constitutionally protected civil rights against illegal search. There is a reason why the Bill of Rights and specifically the 4th amendment is part of our Constitution.

SV

SV : 12/27/2009

There is no knee jerk reaction. I, nor anyone I know, has ever had any issue with illegal search and seizure by any government agency. You are a paranoid.

You got me. : 12/28/2009

You got me. I now realize I am "a paranoid". Outstanding revelation! You have rightly proven my arguments to be invalid with your spot on assessment of my person. How can anyone ever now question or doubt the legitimacy of police searches on public roads without probable cause since your anecdotes of personal indifference prove that you and your friends have never had a problem with it. I will now sleep well at night knowing that you and your friends have never had a problem with illegal searches.

SV

DUI checkpoint efficiency : 12/28/2009

SBPD spending grant money on these DUI checkpoints and it's great for them, I see usually 10 to 15 SBPD standing around, all on OT, and maybe 2 or 3 of them actually working. The 6:00 PM I bet is for SBPD convenience not because they're concerned about grabbing the most DUI's for the money. SCOTUS ruled public safety outweighs your constitutional protection against a warrantless search. Why not burden the outrageous number of liquor licensees in the downtown area with the cost of this enforcement rather than the general public? It's perverse - allow hundreds of liquor licenses in the city, then bill the taxpayer for enforcing drunk driving laws because - surprise! - people drink in SB then drive (but not at 6:00 PM).
1. SBPD should preclude the use of OT on grant-money DUI stops.
2. SBPD should be forced to operate the DUI stops efficiently - during hours when drivers are most likely to be DUI.
3. If SBPD operates these and they don't efficiently catch DUI's, then by definition they don't need to be doing the DUI stops. But then, it's fed and state tax money footing the bill so they don't really care.

Menchar

Legal ruling : 12/29/2009

To "Menchar": I agree with your post and understand that this practice has been deemed "legal" by the courts. I am not quite as cynical about the wage issues as you, but I am sympathetic to your point. However I want people to remember that courts of the United States also, at one time, ruled that slavery, poll taxes, and segregation (among other things) were "constitutional". I imagine you would be hard pressed to find a citizen today who would agree with the constitutionality of these practices. As a citizen of our country, I will always fight to maintain our private civil liberties and speak out against encroachment of "Big Brother". Happy New Year to all.

SV

But what are you afraid of? : 12/29/2009

I have nothing to hide, lets just throw away all rights to privacy and person because I'm some tool who says he has no problem with the cops searching me and my property! If it's cool with me, it should be cool with all of you right? All of you dope smokers just want to hide your drugs, so you shouldn't get any rights! If people have rights to privacy then they could be calling me a dooshbag and I wouldn't know it!! And thats not cool!!

(and they ARE calling you a dooshbag)

Poor republican party... so desperate! Lol : 1/2/2010

Menchar has no friends, he is the same old racist republican nobody who nobody likes an who wants the police to have all type of powers to find illegals and deport them, if you didn't know, illegal immigrants can't get driver licenses therefore they can't drive, who ends up drunk around this time? ever thinks is OKAY to have DUI checkpoints at 5pm or 6pm? We should all spread the word everytime we see one of them illegal checkpoints during the day!

Liberal to the bone!

The problem is : 1/4/2010

sometimes if you have 2 drinks your over the legal limit and if you have more then that they waves you threw the checkpoint

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